{"id":5037,"date":"2017-09-07T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2017-09-06T22:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/histoire-en-citations.fr\/WP\/2025\/06\/21\/poincare-de-vous-a-moi-il-ny-a-pas-tant-de-difference-il-y-a-toute-la-question-religieuse\/"},"modified":"2025-07-19T09:16:43","modified_gmt":"2025-07-19T07:16:43","slug":"poincare-de-vous-a-moi-il-ny-a-pas-tant-de-difference-il-y-a-toute-la-question-religieuse","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/histoire-en-citations.fr\/WP\/poincare-de-vous-a-moi-il-ny-a-pas-tant-de-difference-il-y-a-toute-la-question-religieuse\/","title":{"rendered":"Poincar\u00e9 : \u00ab De vous \u00e0 moi, il n&#039;y a pas tant de diff\u00e9rence. \u2014 Il y a toute la question religieuse.\u00a0\u00bb"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"field-item even\">\n<p>Retour de la question religieuse\u2026 qui culmine en 1905 (loi de S\u00e9paration). <\/p>\n<p>Au c\u0153ur du d\u00e9bat de l\u2019\u00a0\u00ab\u00a0Ordre moral\u00a0\u00bb d\u00e8s le d\u00e9but de la Troisi\u00e8me, elle refait l\u2019actu, dans cette France aux racines chr\u00e9tiennes qui se vit et se voit encore comme \u00ab\u00a0fille a\u00een\u00e9e de l\u2019\u00c9glise\u00a0\u00bb. La brutalit\u00e9 avec laquelle cette (bonne) loi s\u2019impose et s\u2019applique ne fait pas honneur au personnel politique.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"citation\"><span class=\"enonce\">\u00ab\u00a0De vous \u00e0 moi, il n\u2019y a pas tant de diff\u00e9rence. \u2014\u00a0Il y a toute la question religieuse.\u00a0\u00bb<span id=\"2534\" class=\"cit-num\">2534<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"auteur\"><span data-href=\"\/auteurs\/raymond-poincare\"><span class=\"author\"><span class=\"surname\">Raymond <\/span><span class=\"name\"><span class=\"caps\">POINCAR\u00c9<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span> (1860-1934), \u00e0 <span data-href=\"\/auteurs\/charles-benoist\"><span class=\"author\"><span class=\"surname\">Charles <\/span><span class=\"name\"><span class=\"caps\">BENOIST<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span> (1861-1936)<\/p>\n<p class=\"source\"><cite>La D\u00e9mocratie religieuse<\/cite> (1921), Charles Maurras.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Poincar\u00e9, d\u00e9put\u00e9 de la Meuse, partisan de la la\u00efcit\u00e9, s\u2019oppose \u00e0 Charles Benoist, d\u00e9put\u00e9 de Paris, d\u00e9fenseur des congr\u00e9gations enseignantes. Mais Poincar\u00e9, qui n\u2019a pas l\u2019anticl\u00e9ricalisme du bloc des gauches, fait figure de mod\u00e9r\u00e9. Ce clivage religieux g\u00eane les alliances indispensables pour former les gouvernements, les radicaux au pouvoir devant faire face aux oppositions de droite comme de gauche.<\/p>\n<p>Les d\u00e9bats sur l\u2019enseignement libre et la s\u00e9paration des \u00c9glises et de l\u2019\u00c9tat d\u00e9cha\u00eenent les passions, cependant que le peuple manifeste son anticl\u00e9ricalisme militant aux cris de \u00ab\u00a0\u00c0 bas la calotte\u00a0!\u00a0\u00bb, \u00ab\u00a0Vive la sociale\u00a0!\u00a0\u00bb<\/p>\n<p>La loi de S\u00e9paration occupe l\u2019ann\u00e9e 1905\u00a0: 48 s\u00e9ances de discussion \u00e0 la Chambre des d\u00e9put\u00e9s qui vote finalement le 3\u00a0juillet. Le S\u00e9nat se prononce \u00e0 son tour le 6\u00a0d\u00e9cembre. Le pr\u00e9sident Doumer promulgue la loi rapport\u00e9e par Aristide Briand et appliqu\u00e9e \u00e0 partir du 1er janvier 1906. Trois id\u00e9es-forces\u00a0: neutralit\u00e9 de l\u2019\u00c9tat dans les questions religieuses, fin du r\u00e9gime des cultes reconnus et subventionn\u00e9s par le budget public, libert\u00e9 de conscience et libert\u00e9 collective de pratiquer une <a href=\"http:\/\/www.histoire-en-citations.fr\/indexation\/religion\">religion<\/a> sans entraves.<\/p>\n<p>On parle de s\u00e9paration des \u00c9glises au pluriel, car cette loi ne concerne pas que le culte catholique, mais aussi les cultes protestants et isra\u00e9lite.<\/p>\n<p>La la\u00efcit\u00e9 de l\u2019\u00c9tat en France est un principe capital dont l\u2019application pratique pose encore des probl\u00e8mes, plus d\u2019un si\u00e8cle apr\u00e8s. L\u2019essentiel a \u00e9t\u00e9 fait par la Troisi\u00e8me R\u00e9publique, au terme de querelles et de bagarres propres \u00e0 la \u00ab\u00a0question religieuse\u00a0\u00bb, envenim\u00e9es \u00e0 plaisir.<\/p>\n<p class=\"panneau\">Toutes les citations qui suivent <br>sont comment\u00e9es dans nos <a href=\"https:\/\/www.histoire-en-citations.fr\/boutique\">Chroniques.<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"citation-small\">\u00ab\u00a0Vous avez \u00e0 choisir entre J\u00e9sus et Barabbas\u00a0!\u00a0\u00bb<span id=\"2533\" class=\"cit-num\">2533<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"auteur\">Parole d\u2019un pr\u00e9dicateur. <em>Histoire de la France et des Fran\u00e7ais<\/em> (1972), Andr\u00e9 Castelot, Alain Decaux<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Fin janvier\u00a01902, de nouveaux d\u00e9bats sur l\u2019enseignement libre et la s\u00e9paration des \u00c9glises et de l\u2019\u00c9tat ont fait rena\u00eetre une guerre de religion entre Fran\u00e7ais. L\u2019imbroglio de la (nouvelle) question religieuse dure depuis 1880, l\u2019opinion publique veut surtout \u00ab\u00a0la libert\u00e9 pour tout le monde\u00a0\u00bb, mais le \u00ab\u00a0petit p\u00e8re Combes\u00a0\u00bb multiplie\u00a0les maladresses.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"citation-small\">\u00ab\u00a0Allons Combes, chasseur de nonnes, \/ \u00c0 ton cor, mets vite un bouchon [\u2026]<br>Tu mets sous scell\u00e9s les nonettes, \/ T\u2019y mettras pas la religion.\u00a0\u00bb<span id=\"2541\" class=\"cit-num\">2541<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"auteur\">Antonin <span class=\"caps\">LOUIS<\/span>, <em>Le Chasseur de nonnes<\/em>, chanson. <em>Histoire de France par les chansons<\/em> (1982), France Vernillat, Pierre Barbier<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>S\u00e9minariste devenu franc-ma\u00e7on, militant provincial, esprit petit-bourgeois radical et born\u00e9, conservateur et anticl\u00e9rical, le pr\u00e9sident du Conseil (juin\u00a01902 \u00e0 janvier 1905) va lasser sa propre majorit\u00e9, irriter le pape et <a href=\"http:\/\/www.histoire-en-citations.fr\/indexation\/revolte-revolution\">r\u00e9volter<\/a> une partie du pays, faisant fermer des milliers d\u2019\u00ab\u00a0\u00e9coles libres\u00a0\u00bb et dispersant quelque 18\u00a0000 religieux de congr\u00e9gations.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<style>\r\n        a .cit-num {\r\n            text-decoration: none !important;\r\n            color: inherit !important;\r\n        }\r\n    <\/style>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Retour de la question religieuse&#8230; qui culmine en 1905 (loi de S\u00e9paration). Au c\u0153ur du d\u00e9bat de l\u2019\u00a0\u00ab\u00a0Ordre moral\u00a0\u00bb d\u00e8s le d\u00e9but de la Troisi\u00e8me, elle refait l\u2019actu, dans cette France aux racines chr\u00e9tiennes qui se vit et se voit encore comme \u00ab\u00a0fille a\u00een\u00e9e de l\u2019\u00c9glise\u00a0\u00bb. La brutalit\u00e9 avec laquelle cette (bonne) loi s\u2019impose et [&#8230;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"iawp_total_views":1,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1917],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5037","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-charles-benoist-chronique-citation-du-jour-raymond-poincare-troisieme-republique"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/histoire-en-citations.fr\/WP\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5037","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/histoire-en-citations.fr\/WP\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/histoire-en-citations.fr\/WP\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/histoire-en-citations.fr\/WP\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/histoire-en-citations.fr\/WP\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5037"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/histoire-en-citations.fr\/WP\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5037\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5038,"href":"https:\/\/histoire-en-citations.fr\/WP\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5037\/revisions\/5038"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/histoire-en-citations.fr\/WP\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5037"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/histoire-en-citations.fr\/WP\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5037"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/histoire-en-citations.fr\/WP\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5037"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}